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The original version of BJE was an experiment in creating ultimate energy with musical instruments, Aesthetic Nihilism-Music so extreme it verges on destruction. The rules were play as loud, fast and as long as possible, usually non stop for 3 hours. The lyrics were either made up by the vocalist on the spot or were alternating quotes from C S Lewis and Nietzsche or Mel Lyman or never sent & thrown away letters written by a girl to the drummer. Another concept was the merging of Lewis & Nietzsche which occurred in Lewis' That Hideous Strength, the Firey Glow and Incandscent Darkness of the 4th Reich. The Butt Boy Manifesto was written by a guy named Boner for real and was so ridiculous we often used that in shows. We played once a week either at the house in Oakland, 74-7 or the ranch in Chatsworth 78-79 and one piece recorded in Newton Mass in a basement. Aes-Nihil played guitar and sometimes piano a 58 Silver-tone through a Super Beatle which allways shorted out and later a 60 Start with a double stack 100 Marshall which did not short out. Rick was an ex Green Beret who also played Manson in the movie, he was assigned Bass and had a 8 string Hagstrum and a 100 watt amp. Rusty played drums, David played Farfisa Mini Compact run through 100 watt amp and 15s and run through 10 effects pedals simultaneously. Mr. Jacquetta was the vocalist and sometimes played piano, a grand. With exception of the Drummer who had played in garage bands and David who was a Guitarist no had ever touched a musical instrument before this. David was no allowed to play guitar in that that would result in Normal music so he got to play an instrument he never played before. An interesting thing is that everyone was totally of one mind about this approach and were totally into adhering to it. by 1980 the whole thing fell apart with Rick & Jacqueta going back to Oakland, Rusty to Boston, Aes-Nihil staying in LA. David had moved on by 1977-78. In 1984 I had meet this band called Debt of Nature with Brad Lanier and Mike Fey who were intrigued by the tapes I had of BJE and I played guitar with them once. Then I got various people together and started an acoustic version, otherwise rather the same concept. This version with various member's played once or twice a year, the last time being about 6 months ago. A lot of the same lyrics were used. A Japanese label commissioned a piece. Generaly I played acoustic piano or electronic if a real one was not to be had, Kirby with whom I had done some stuff with Radio Werewolf on Harmonium, Ed Keller always on French Horn and Trumpet, Michael Intiere on Cello, Charlie Kerper on Violin as well as Julie Fowles, guest vocalists have included Stanton LaVey, Paul K, Don Boles, The Warrior Elf.


released January 1, 1984


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